Just to come back to David Littleproud’s comments because honestly – I am still absolutely flabbergasted that the man applying to be the nation’s deputy prime minister can openly say he doesn’t think some kids deserve civil rights, that those rights should be “put aside” doesn’t make more than a little ripple in the Auspol space.

Report after report from people who know their stuff point out the role governments have to play in reducing poverty and how that can have a direct and positive impact in lowering crime rates.

Give people money to live, and breathe and think and actually plan their future – and what do you know? Crime rates reduce. And even more noticeably, juvenile crime rates reduce. Because kids have what they need.

It is not just, hey we did this one program and not enough changed. It has to be a lifelong commitment to reducing poverty, addressing systemic issues of injustice, violence and racism, housing overcrowding, substance abuse and generational trauma and it can not be bouncing around from one program to the next based on political ideology.

We have a massive problem in this country of not listening to the experts and instead being guided by feelpinions and it is to all of our detriment.