Albanese again refers to ‘sloganeering’ when it comes to people who have been calling for accountability for Israel for its slaughter of Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

Albanese falls back on this a bit – that calling for accountability is somehow grandstanding for domestic political gain. It shows you how this conflict is viewed, because people protesting against the actions of the Russian government for instance, are not accused of grandstanding or sloganeering.

If you are going to have advanced genuinely a two state solution then you are going to need to have not just the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinians for their own state but Israel needs to be recognised by the states around the Middle East.

Israel needs to be able to be confident as part of that that they are able to exists without a threat to the security, so that is what we talk about in a mature way and that is where the discussion is actually at.

Not so much some of the sloganeering that does nothing to advance the cause – nothing. If people are serious, and I’ve been serious about the rights of Palestinians and them having justice since, you know, well before I came to this place. There hasn’t been an advance.