Here is some more of that interview on the Nine Network with Anika Wells where she was asked about the weekend events:
Oh, awful. They were awful scenes. And there were also known racists who were trying spread division and hatred. And I think it is particularly appalling the people that were aggressive and violent towards our police officers. Australia police are having a very hard week at the moment. They’re just trying to keep our community safe. I think that was particularly egregious.
Q: Well, particularly in Melbourne, right where we saw the resources so stretched. I mean, you’ve got people, neo-Nazis who were given a mic. They were given a platform to espouse their beliefs. Those interviewed proudly said they were neo-Nazis and proud racists. At a time when the government is trying to lower tensions around anti-Semitism. These people are openly admitting to being neo-Nazis.
Wells:
That’s right. And in my federal Minister, I can make clear to your viewers this morning there is no place for hatred in this country. And the vast majority of people were not at these protests, are horrified by these protests, and want to work together with other people in their community to make sure these people are the vast minority and cannot demonstrate their hate.
Q: Anika, I’m not sure whether you saw the image. I think it was in Adelaide where was Dezi Freeman’s picture was held up right. He is wanted fugitive at the moment, accused of gunning down two police officers. That is alarming. Are you worried that these kinds of movements are actually gaining strength in parts of Australia?
Wells:
I certainly am, and you would have seen Anne Aly who’s one of our experts and federal ministers, speak to that across the past few days. And as Minister for communications, my concern is how we are, how we stop this from spreading online. I think everybody in Australia has uptick in in seeing this kind behaviour because people are able to organise online and part of what drives us is the [challenge of making] online spaces safer, prevalence of this kind of thing and doing what we can, where we can.
Q: One of the key challenges face as that they are finding legitimate cause of grievance in this country, right, and hijacking talking about an issue like housing, which is a legitimate so many Australians. But it’s because you lot haven’t built enough houses, both parties, not just the Labor Party in government. Now, the previous government as well. It feels hopeless for so many out there.
Wells:
Well, Sarah, I would not for one second give any credence to the grievances of these people as legitimate.
Q: The point is, they’re finding legitimate issues in Australia, and they’re hijacking it. That’s the concern here because you’re not facing it. Mostly sovereign citizens based themselves off one conspiracy theory, and then it grows from there and being able to navigate and organise online where previously [it was more difficult] So is there a housing concern?
Wells:
I think we’re two different issues here, and I’m at pains not to conflate that. Of course, the Albanese government you would have seen all last week Parliament we were doing announcing our new scheme to get first home, first home buyers into homeownership more quickly, you know, reducing the the 20% down to 5% so that people can actually consider this to be a realistic goal.
Minister Clare O’Neil has full shoulders to the wheel, trying to get as much done as we can at a federal level and working with our state It’s absolutely a problem. Housing affordability is absolutely something that comes up across the board. Let’s not conflate that with this very separate, serious issue.