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Australia Institute Live: Day 12 of the 2025 election campaign. As it happened.

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Angus Taylor then has a crack:

The government are trying to pretend that they’ve always been advocates for free markets.

This is the government that has shut down the sheep trade in Western Australia. I mean, they’re not advocates for getting access to markets. They’ve done the exact opposite. The last Labor government shut down the cattle trade into Indonesia. We have always been the ones fighting for open markets, for our farmers, for our exporters, for our miners, for our manufacturers, and we will always be the ones who stand up for them.

When we were last in government, of course, we did take on the Trump administration, and we avoided tariffs as a result. (It was a very different situation – these are worldwide tariffs).

Jim went over to the US not long ago, got the photo opportunity, but he didn’t come back here with what we needed, which is free access to the US market.

Treasurer’s debate begins

The first topic is ‘Australia’s Future’.

The pair gave opening statements, which went as you could imagine.

Angus Taylor seems nervous.

OK, the first question follows the clip of Democratic Senator Mark Warner who questioned why Australia had tariffs at all – given we are an ally, and also in a trade deficit.

The answer from the Trump administration was because we have banned US frozen beef and pork (we do import a small bit of frozen beef, but also US beef is terrible) and we do have big biosecurity requirements which is why US pork isn’t on the menu.

Asked about Australia’s response, Chalmers says:

I think we’ve got the first contrast of the debate tonight, the first choice, because we’ve got a prime minister standing up for and speaking up for Australia, and we’ve got an opposition leader and an opposition which is absolutely full of these kind of DOGE-ie sycophants who have hitched their wagon to American style slogans and policies and especially cuts which would make Australians worse off, and now they wonder why nobody believes them when they desperately try to pretend to unhitch their wagon from some of the policies and cuts that we’ve seen in the US.

And so this is a pretty important choice, a prime minister speaking up for Australia and standing up for Australians, or an opposition leader and an opposition who have made it clear for some time that they take their cues and their instructions and their policies directly from the US and DOGE sycophants.

OK, now Sean Spicer, Trump’s first press secretary who flamed out and then made a career about being the guy who flamed out, and is now back in Trump’s fold, is speaking to Bolt and somehow, Bolt is the sensible one in this conversation, in case you were wondering how it was all going on Sky.

All eyes on the money men as global economy shudders

Joshua Black
Postdoctoral Research Fellow

With Trump’s tariffs beginning to bite and consumer confidence dropping here and elsewhere, all eyes tonight will be on the debate between treasurer Jim Chalmers and his Coalition counterpart Angus Taylor. But who are the money men, and where are the money women?

Chalmers has long been Labor’s coming man. As treasurer over the last three years, he has modelled himself on Paul Keating, who made complex economic problems understandable for the public in the 1980s.

The similarities stop there. Unlike Keating who left school aged 14, Chalmers enjoyed a university education at Brisbane’s Griffith University and did his PhD in political science at the ANU, studying … you guessed it: Paul Keating. Before he was elected to federal parliament in 2013, Chalmers worked for Labor politicians including Treasurer Wayne Swan, right at the height of the global financial crisis.

Angus Taylor arrived on the scene at the same election, but his pathway to parliament was rather different. Twelve years older than Chalmers, Taylor was a medal-winning student of economics and law at the University of Sydney and enjoyed a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford. He cut his commercial teeth with McKinsey and Co in the 1990s and Port Jackson Partners in the 2000s.

Taylor rose quickly up the Liberal league under Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison years. From 2019 he was never too far from the whiff of scandal, with questions asked about documents potentially forged in his office, questionable government water purchases from companies he used to run and more.

These are the men who will compete tonight for the economic trust of Australians. But why no money women?

There has never been a woman federal treasurer in Australia. Just one woman, Julie Bishop, has held the portfolio in opposition, but she lost the confidence of colleagues and was replaced by Joe Hockey.

There have been more women in the finance portfolio. Liberal Senator Margaret Guilfoyle was the first woman to do that job in 1980, followed by Labor’s Penny Wong in 2010. Her colleague Katy Gallagher currently holds the job.

The states have done fractionally better. Victoria’s first woman treasurer got the job five months ago. NSW, Queensland and Tasmania have had one each. The territories are unique, with the ACT boasting three (including Gallagher) and the Northern Territory with six.

It matters who our treasurers are. Their life experiences and perspectives help shape the economic debate at the heart of government. Better economic and social outcomes are likely if half of Australia’s population can see itself in the engine-room of economic policy.

Money Men….where are the Money Women?

Joshua Black
Postdoctoral Research Fellow

With Trump’s tariffs beginning to bite and consumer confidence dropping here and elsewhere, all eyes tonight will be on the debate between treasurer Jim Chalmers and his Coalition counterpart Angus Taylor. But who are these money men, and where are the money women?

Chalmers and Taylor were both elected to parliament in 2013. Chalmers studied political science and went on to work for Labor politicians including Wayne Swan, at the height of the global financial crisis.

Taylor was a medal-winning student of economics and law at Sydney, a Rhodes Scholar (yes, you read that right) and a successful business consultant. In the Turnbull and Morrison years he was always the coming man, until the whiff of several scandals slowed him down.

These are the men who will compete tonight for the economic trust of Australians. But why no money women? Australia has never had a woman as federal treasurer, and only (briefly) one woman shadow treasurer, Julie Bishop.

Women have more often played number 2 as Minister for Finance, starting with Liberal Margaret Guilfoyle in 1980 and more recently Penny Wong in 2010. Her colleague Katy Gallagher currently holds the job.

The states have done marginally better. Victoria’s first woman treasurer got the job five months ago. NSW, Queensland and Tasmania have had one each. The territories are unique, with the ACT boasting three (including Gallagher) and the Northern Territory with six.

It matters who our treasurers are. The job is important. Their life experiences and perspectives help shape the economic debate at the heart of government. We should care about having women’s voices properly represented in those debates.

Good evening and welcome back!

We are standing by to cover the Treasurers’ debate -it is the same format as yesterday’s with the leaders -you’ll have Jim Chalmers and Angus Taylor and 100 undecided voters asking the questions and deciding who wins.

You’ll also have Greg Jericho and Matt Grudnoff to fact check and add any tidbits you should know, and me, Amy Remeikis doing all the typing monkey stuff.

Ready?

Let’s get into it. Again. May Dolly help us.

See you at 7(ish)

We are going to take a small break and come back at 7(ish) to bring you the treasurer’s debate.

You’ll have Greg Jericho and Matt Grudnoff along for the ride. Along with my krupnkis.

So go have a wonderful evening and come back if you need to make your night worse.

See you soon. Ax

We mentioned a little bit ago that Jacqui Lambie had been everywhere, including Abbie Chatfield’s podast, It’s A Lot.

And she went even harder on the salmon industry. Asked if people should boycott salmon, Lambie said:

Yeah, don’t eat bloody Tasmanian salmon.

I’ll tell you what, (in) another couple of weeks, I reckon Woolies and Coles, they’re feeling the pressure down there as well, I know they’re about this far from pulling salmon.”

….You show up on Bruny Island (and) there’s always a dirty filthy f**king fish net sitting there with salmon in them.

And Tasmanians have had enough because what they’re going to do is kill brand Tasmania.

People come because it is Tasmania. It is clean and green. It’s much bigger than salmon. It is taking Tasmania out and I’m not going to tolerate it.”

…We don’t want that bloody salmon farming in Tasmania, they can piss off.

Coalition gas plan: Do retail customers benefit?

Rod Campbell and Dave Richardson

The Coalition’s acknowledgement that gas exports are responsible for gas supply issues in Australia is welcome. It’s a big and important shift, and the proposal for an export levy might just work.

But…there are plenty of buts!

Peter Dutton claims the policy will save 4 million residential customers 7% of their retail gas bill, by reducing the wholesale price from $14/GJ to $10/GJ.

Looking at AGL’s  2024-25 half-year report, AGL’s wholesale gas costs were $11.5/GJ of which $8.2/GJ was AGL’s cost for gas purchases (the rest ($3.3/GJ) was “haulage, storage and other.”).

So if AGL pays an average of $8.2/GJ for gas, it’s not clear that it will benefit from a reduction in the spot price to $10/GJ.

Still less clear is how much would be passed on to AGL’s retail customers. They pay an average of $38.8/GJ plus GST, meaning a 7% decrease would represent a saving of $3.0/GJ…were it to materialise.

Like a lot of energy policy, the devil will be in the detail, with customers and the climate not looking like big winners.

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