Independent MP Zoe Daniel has the first independent question (what will the crossbench look like the next time we sit? who knows!)
My question is to the Prime Minister: People in Goldstein are constantly raising with me their concerns about the stability of the Australia-US relationship under the Trump Administration and whether it’s sensible to be spending billions offer the AUKUS deal when the US congressional budget office says the submarines may never be delivered. What is your plan B?
Anthony Albanese:
Well, my plan is to implement the AUKUS arrangements that we’re committed to. I do that for a range of reasons. I do that primarily, though, for one reason – which is that it’s in the Australian national interest for us of the best defence assets that are possibly available to Australia.
And when we have briefings and I’m happy to arrange for appropriate briefings for the member for Goldstein on these matters, if you are an island continent located where we are, the best assets you can possibly have is a submarine, but importantly, you have to then ask yourself – what is the best form of submarine in terms of stealth, in terms of capacity to go long distances whilst not having to snort and rise to the surface? What is the way you can ensure that you are not detectable? And the answer to that is nuclear-powered submarines.
That is something that we have supported – have supported because we think it is absolutely essential for Australia’s national interest.
Daniel:
“The question went to either the capacity or the willingness of the US to deliver such subs.”
Dick rules Albanese is in order.
Albanese:
The AUKUS arrangements, though also have within them pillar 2. What that’s about is the capacity for us to lift up our capacity for advanced manufacturing. So really the most high-tech manufacturing that you can have. One of the things about the defence industry is that there are spin-offs as well. (which we may pay to make, but the US will OWN) I’m very committed to a future made in Australia. One of the ways that we can do that, and that’s why the National Reconstruction Fund for example has a component in it about innovation for defence industries. And working with the United States – which is the most advanced in terms of, obviously, the largest military in the world with the defence industries that they have – there are already companies, Australian companies, such as Austel for example that are located there in the United States, a fantastic operation, of course, based in Western Australia primarily, that will bring great benefit to Australia.
Now, with regard to the support for the AUKUS arrangements in the United States and the UK, I have met with over 100 Congress people and senators in the United States. There was overwhelming support from both Republican and Democrat people who are elected representatives. I have raised this issue in the discussions I have had with President Trump as well and he has expressed his support, as of course Prime Minister Starmer in the United Kingdom who I had a talk with just less than two weeks ago. We will continue to put in place these arrangements because it is in Australia’s national interest and I’m confident that an important part of the defence of this country is the AUKUS arrangements.
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